Holyfield did not headbutt Tyson
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mike Tyson
hitfan — 17 years ago(April 16, 2008 11:54 PM)
There are tons of youtube clips of Tyson VS Holyfield. I ch5b4allenge any Tyson apologist who claims that Holyfield is a dirty fighter to pinpoint a link to a Youtube video with the minutes:seconds showing that Holyfield deliberately throws a headbutt on Tyson.
What the Tyson lovers fail to understand or admit is that Tyson always lunges his head forward as he throws hooks and uppercuts. It's a borderline illegal tactic that would cause his opponents to reactively move backward so that Tyson's punch would land squarely on their retreating heads.
Holyfield simply stayed put, and there is a comical youtube clip of Tyson deliberately slaming his face against Holyfield's noggin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXtnjJ0_g8k
No one forced Tyson to slam his head against Holyfield's. Explain that, Tyson fans.
As for Tyson-Holyfield II
There were five Head butts the first one looked accidental, two men come together at the same time, their heads met. headbutts 2,3 & 4 (including the one that caused the cut) Was CAUSED BY TYSON when he would lunge forward, miss his punch and ram his face into the top of Holyfields STATIONARY head. The last headbutt look completely intentional and was initiated by Tyson AGAINST Holyfield. That one happened after the first bite and before the second.
The only foul I saw Holyfield attempt, came after the second bite when Holyfield blatantly tried to land an elbow to the back of Tyson's head. Can you bl5b4ame him? After Tyson had attempted to break his arm and bite off two of his body parts? an, watch the fight again I've watched it ten times and slo-mo'd all the important parts I suggest you do the same. -
hitfan — 17 years ago(June 10, 2008 06:18 AM)
The title of this thread is "Holyfield did not headbutt Tyson". Show me where (include round # plus the minutes:seconds) Holyfield deliberately throws a headbutt AGAINST Tyson. There are tons of Youtube videos as wellprovide links (like I have in the first post).
In the link I provided, you can clearly see Tyson lunging his head forward without even attempting to throw a bunch. Tyson slammed his jaw against Holyfield's head.
As for Holyfield VS Rahman the referee deemed the butt to be accidental. -
hitfan — 17 years ago(July 10, 2008 05:08 AM)
Again, I ask you to point to a youtube video of Holyfield VS tyson (there are many available there) and point the minutes:seconds where Holyfield is seen to headbutt Tyson.
Sounds like you're in love with Mike Tyson. -
hitfan — 17 years ago(September 04, 2008 07:21 AM)
Tyson once said after a bout: "I'm going to eat his children his children's children, praise be to Allah!" (in reference to Lennox Lewis).
The allegations of Holyfield's so-called dirty tactics (vs Tyson) have been shouted out by the Tysonists for years now. Yet, not one single instance that can be verified has ever been shown.
Tysonistas, I'm still waiting for that video clip of Holyfield throwing a headbutt VS your hero. -
Topsword — 17 years ago(December 09, 2008 12:03 PM)
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hitfan — 17 years ago(December 15, 2008 07:47 AM)
That's a good video that shows Tyson getting himself disqualified.
I saw a few instances where their heads clashed but I didn't see any intentional headbutts.
Perhaps the Tyson fans here can point out the Minutes:Seconds (example 55:55) where Holyfield is supposedly fighting dirty in this video. -
devil_may_cry_ldk_dante_sparda — 16 years ago(May 19, 2009 07:31 PM)
lol.a professional boxer would know how to headbutt someone and make it "look" unintentional. In the first fight, i was quiet but VERY suspicious still. In the second fight, I knew it was a dirty trick. Its logical because NO fighter can ever beat a prime mike tyson fairly. Tyson has only lost ANY fight because of personal emotional problems that he created himself and affected him in the ring of course (divorce with givens, firing rooney who taught him combinations instead of just going for the head, getting in trouble with lawetc list goes ON!) If he was smart, he would have steam rolled every fighter even now, easily! Theres no chin in existence that can withstand his blows, at least for too long. I have NEVER seen anyone this vicious in boxing. Who hits hard, super fast. I get bored watching ALI frazier..etc.fights. I don't watch ANY boxing fights except the early tyson fights.
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hitfan — 16 years ago(June 09, 2009 11:35 AM)
I made $100 against a Tyson fan who believed the same thing that you doTyson is "unbeatable" bla bla bla.
Before the fight he said I didn't know sh*t about boxing and that "Tyson's the best!!! You're an idiot!"
Anyway, he was crying like a menstruating woman when Holyfield knocked him the beep out and he had to shell out the money.
There is more to boxing than simple punching power. -
rbuonomo27 — 16 years ago(May 16, 2009 11:39 PM)
Holyfield headbutted EVERYONE!!!
Did you see the fights, did you see the movie? They showed all of the instances when he headbutted him. Holyfield was a dirty fighter. Tyson wasnt a saint in the ring either but Evander headbutted everyone
Also, Tyson was having a great 3rd round in that 2nd fight and I think was on his way to KO Evander until he went nuts and bit him -
hitfan — 16 years ago(January 03, 2010 08:38 AM)
I saw clips of a Tyson documentary on youtube, they appeared to be doctored to make Holyfield look as bad as possible.
but isn't it funny that for every single alleged headbutt thrown by Holyfield, Tyson just happens to be lunging his head forward at the same time?
Tyson always lunges forward (a barely legal tactic) and Holyfield found a way to place his head (without throwing a headbutt) where Tyson would slam his head towards to.
Tyson also complained "Holyfield is taller than me, why is his head lower than mine?". That's pretty simple Holyfield always fights in a crouch because he brawls. But Tyson bawls at the fact that someone out Tyson-ed Tyson. -
tyson6633 — 13 years ago(July 02, 2012 11:03 PM)
I'm a self proclaimed Tyson freak. A Tyson "Nuthugger" as everyone else says. I must say tho that I honestly can't agree or disagree with you. People who believe one side over another will NEVER change their opinion. It's a lost cause. I personally never really liked "Evan Fields" other than his Warrior Heart and his fights with Bowe. I had a feeling he would beat Tyson. He was known to Butt during fights but Tyson was known to use his elbows after throwing his powerfully fast hooks. Pretty much every fighter will do what they can to get a leg up in a fight. It just depends on if the REF catches you or not. Even tho Tyson is my favorite boxer, it doesn't mean I think he was the GREATEST. Big difference. The 86-88 Kevin Rooney Tyson was in one word a machine. Focus, drive, hunger, determination and more importantly, DOMINATION. Ending record 35-0 31 KO). The Don King influenced Tyson? Pfft! Terrible. Tyson lost ALL his Legacy fights. God, I hate admitting that! Tyson is/was the biggest "what-if" in Boxing. We'll never know his true potential. What a Shame.